Thanks for the info. :up:

Can't say I blame them. Over usage and piles of trash. I threw-in with the "WINS" at Thousand Trails last year and we collected a couple of truck loads. The good news seems to be that if you want to locate a bit more remote there is still plenty of space available.

We dry camped outside of Sedona last year. Crap everywhere. Looked like people had been living there and just abandoned all their garbage when they left. We pick up garbage all the time but this was just way too much for us to clean up. Very depressing. I expect more and more areas will be closed to mitigate crime, homelessness sanitation etc...

Must admit to hitting a bit of culture shock as a full-timer. I really had no clue. It was something I read about.

It so sad that some people think they can just throw trash anywhere they want, and think oh someone else will pick it up. Can’t blame the forest service for closing areas. Just goes to show how a few bad eggs will spoil it for the rest of us :angry:

Dunno.. Makes me wonder if some folks really and truly do not know any better.
A good friend talks about "avoidance therapy" To keep ones panties from getting too bunched.

Honestly I don't think some people assume others will clean up after them. They aren't there for the beauty. It's just a free place to crash. I love the fact that there are so many public lands we can use without permits or fees but I think we are coming to a time where modest fees need to be charged that can support trash bins and patrols.

Just recently we were at Lone Tree BLM campground near Lake Havasu. The camp host was trying to keep the place safe and clean. While helping him clean up trash a homeless woman left he told me he was done volunteering. He wasn't even getting his dump and gas costs incurred cleaning up after others reimbursed as promised.

It sure seems like we can do better.

The area being closed is apparently not in the Sedona area but rather the stretch along Hwy 260, predominantly between Camp Verde and Cottonwood. Here is a local county interview done with two of the PNF Rangers describing the circumstances: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzl4tZ6OwJE

The dates of the closure are from this past January until Jan 7th, 2021 as detailed here: https://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/prescott/alerts-notices/?aid=50683 Still...lots of camping options remain in the PNF: https://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/prescott/recreation/camping-cabins